Obama still rising

We posted the president’s improving poll numbers the other day and it drew some comments …
This one may draw more. The president has reached 50 percent approval rating in the Real Clear Politics average of all polls.

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About fsnowflack
Fred Snowflack was editorial page editor and a political columnist for the Daily Record of Morristown for almost 12 years. He has won numerous awards for editorial and column writing from the New Jersey Press Association and has written a blog on county and state politics for the last three years. He lives in Ledgewood in Morris County.

41 Responses to Obama still rising

  1. P says:

    Wow, I didn’t see Nedd’s hands even move when Fred was typing this up. Pretty good ventriloquist act.

  2. Hey P … My assistant typed it up.

  3. P says:

    With all the Gannett layoffs there’s no way you still have an assistant, unless it’s an unpaid intern.

  4. Ted Doty says:

    Hmmm. Apparently, Nedd, Fred and the Pbrain are in close proximity

  5. Gannett is laying people off?

  6. P says:

    I half expected this site to be shut down by now given how little money Gannett seems to be prepared to spend on reporters for NJ.

    P.S. I love it when we get Ted’s propeller spinning. He’s always dreaming up conspiracy theories. I’m sure he still believes that I secretly work for the DR.

  7. This site will be shut down when I get shut down — which can happen. You never know!

  8. P says:

    I told you, just say the word and we’ll be out in force supporting your continued employment.

  9. Kevin Nedd says:

    Let’s get back to the content of the post shall we?

    It seems the President’s mid-course correction is taking hold.

  10. P says:

    You cannot seriously claim that the latest Stimulus package, which has been in effect for about one paycheck, has made a difference. Think you’re getting too much sun out there on Waikiki Beach.

  11. Mark in Rockaway says:

    “Gannett is laying people off?”

    Fred, are you saying that this blog entry (URL below) is wrong? It’s certainly possible, anyone can say anything in a blog.

    http://gannettblog.blogspot.com/2011/01/reports-three-nj-newsrooms-to-be.html

    P, I hope you have a backup plan to deal with the loss of income if your DR blog inciter gig falls to the budget ax….. 🙂

  12. Hey Mark in Rockaway …
    i was being facetious … Half the staff is being cut …

  13. Ted Doty says:

    I say Pbrain should go first

  14. P says:

    Oh no, who will Fred eat lunch with??

  15. Dan Grant says:

    That is a rumor. No one, not even the inept DR management would pay P to post anything. The shame of the layoffs is that there are in fact some very qualified DR reporters and Fred although he isn’t always right does know the County Political seen well.
    As far as the President is concerned he is benefiting from the Republican’s trying to rewrite history and spending their time trying to repeal something that will benefit more and more people as time goes on and they can’t repeal it anyway. They waste their time on symbolism because they have no other ideas except that they aren’t Democrats.

  16. P says:

    That was a JOKE! Teddy Boy has a fixation that I am a DR plant and I like to feed his psychosis. If that makes me a bad guy, so be it. But it is hysterical and continues to demonstrate his disconnect from reality.

  17. Ted Doty says:

    Was Pbrain’s post, #1 a joke also? Frankly Pbrain I could care less who you are and rarely mention you’re probable association with the DR. or the operators of the site.

  18. P says:

    Yes, DUH!

    Oh, and as for “not caring,” I’ll simply remind you about our “conversation” from a year and a half ago – http://blogs.dailyrecord.com/morrispolitics/2009/08/31/a-debate-over-debate/#comment-2746 through http://blogs.dailyrecord.com/morrispolitics/2009/08/31/a-debate-over-debate/#comment-2805

    Quoting Fred – “Ted … Please .. I do not want to sound harsh, but are you losing your mind? ”

    The Answer, sadly, is still YES

  19. Ted Doty says:

    “A year and a half ago” was my last mention and Pbrain calls that a obsession.

    As for Fred’s response, it was hardly a denial.

    Now back to post #1of this thread… Pbrain, a guilty pig always squeals

  20. P says:

    Ted, that’s just your most entertaining set of off-the-wall comment son that topic. In this thread alone you’ve twice implied that I work for the DR. Are you so disconnected from reality that you can’t you remember what you wrote a couple of days ago?

    Here’s Humphrey Bogart playing Ted Doty – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zgeQmzV9kk

  21. Ted Doty says:

    Again, no denial. lol

  22. P says:

    No denial of what, that I work for the DR?? I thought you weren’t obsessed, or that you’d finally found some common sense??

    If you review the history of the MP Blog you’ll find that the question has been asked and answered, your conspiratorial mind just won’t accept the answer.

  23. Ted Doty says:

    Still no denial. My comment was that you’re either with the DR or those managing this site.

    Like I said, no denial, no clarification of identity.

    Why are you so obsessed with maintaining anonymity while insisting you’re not involved with production of this site? Ya know Pbrain, Post #1 is evidence that you are involved. lol

  24. Ted, this may solve the problem. If “P” truly is a DR employee, he soon may be laid off …

  25. P says:

    Here’s Your Denial – I am not now, nor have I ever been, an employee of the Daily Record, its parent corporation (Gannett), or any subcontractor, third parties, etc. engaged by either.

    Although, I’m certain that won’t be enough for you.

    Back back to the Topic at Hand – I thought it was great that Mr. Nobel Prize Winner 2009 (aka President Barack Obama) could throw a state dinner for the guy who has thrown the 2010 Noble Prize winner in jail for political dissidence. Wonder what the Libs would be saying if Bush had done that???

    Even more comical, one day Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is calling Hu a dictator, yet a couple of days later he’s welcoming him to the Capitol. What a bunch of hypocrites.

  26. Ted Doty says:

    Pbrain, you still fail to explain post #1of this thread. The guilty pig always squeals.

    Now in terms of state dinners, are you suggesting the US ignore China’s rapidly growing middle class and the potential market it represent’s? For example, GM sold more autos in China last year than domestically. Bottom line, China means US jobs and a reduction of trade deficit.

    On human rights, the state department will continue it’s efforts to stop China’s abuses.

    If you recall, Nixon took the same approach; improve relations while working to resolve human rights issues and I don’t recall any condemnation of Nixon in regard to his China policy.

    Pbrain, you gotta think things through.

  27. P says:

    Sadly, ChurlishTed has NO sense of humor.

    I never said that it wasn’t a good idea to meet, I just get a good laugh (or LOL in TedSpeak) at all the holier-than-thou Libs saying one thing and doing another. There’s a word for it – HYPOCRISY.

    P.S. Two years and counting and and the POW camp at Guantanamo Bay is still OPEN. Mr. President, Oslo Called – They want their NPP back.

  28. Ted Doty says:

    You still have no explanation for Post #1.

    On the China issue, the Obama administration is doing exactly what it says; work to end China’s human rights abuses, which encompasses Harry Reed’s negative comment while improving the market for US goods. Pbrain. why do you consider that hypocritical? It’s no different than what Nixon did.

    The Pbrain MO continues; obfuscate and change h subject

  29. Kevin Nedd says:

    P,

    Tell the GOP to get out of the way and the President will close Gitmo tomorrow.

    Governor Christie told us he was going to LOWER our property tax bills. Well my 2010 tax bill was BIGGER than my 2009 tax bill. My township committee has already warned my 2011 will be BIGGER than my 2010 tax bill. When will Christie deliver on his main campaign promise? So far the President has cut both federal income and payroll taxes.

    The citizens of NJ called – they want their wallets back!

  30. P says:

    IT – WAS – A – JOKE – ! ! !

    I would write an explanation, but you don’t believe anything so why bother.

    Hey Fred – Lunch in the cafe of Monday? 😉

  31. P says:

    Nedd – PuhLease . . Obama couldn’t get the sixty Dems in the Senate and the super-majority he had in the House to agree. Trying to blame the Republicans for his ineptness as a leader on this is beyond a BIG FAT LIE.

    Christie . . ? I thought this thread was about OBAMA. As TeddyBoy would say – stop trying to change the subject and FOCUS! :))

  32. Kevin Nedd says:

    P,

    On the footsteps of GWB, your willingness to use the word “ineptness” to describe the current president’s leadership is laughable. Right now more than 50% of the nation has a favorable view of the president’s leadership. What did the nation think of GWB’s leadership? Wasn’t his approval rating amongst the lowest in history? Mr. Bush’s final approval rating of 22% was the lowest final rating for an outgoing president since Gallup began asking about presidential approval more than 70 years ago.

    Get a clue!

  33. P says:

    Historically, Presidents aren’t judged by their final poll numbers (see Truman, Harry). And every day that Obama is in charge of our Foreign Policy is another day that Bush’s worldview looks prescient.

    But more importantly, why do you need to constantly compare Obama to Bush? And why did he feel the need to spend the first year blaming his predecessor for everything, including the sun coming up every morning? People care about the future, not the past, especially presidents who are no longer in office. Presidents are elected to lead, not complain.

    And when it comes to Gitmo, Obama looks weak AND inept. Promise Made, Promise Broken.

  34. Ted Doty says:

    Well Pbrain, an important part of getting out of an economic crisis is understanding how you got into it. No one is comparing Bush to Obama (clearly there is no comparison).

  35. Kevin Nedd says:

    P,

    If the President looks “weak and inept” then why are his approval ratings rising? Let’s just agree that you don’t like Obama and call it a day. For those of us who do like the president, I am confident we will have much to be happy about. As for GWB, it’s entirely appropriate to make comparisons. After 9/11 all we heard from the right was how vulnerable Clinton left the country and how GWB was going to fix it. Well GWB left us with an economy on the edge of depression. Our current president did what was necessary to turn it around. The comparison is more than fair, so get use to it! If you need any proof, look at charts showing job losses (growth) and GDP over the past 4 years. It’s not a pretty picture for GWB when you compare Obama’s progress relative to GWB.

  36. P says:

    Unfortunately, politicians love to think that they, and they alone, are the ones who make of break the economy. They Don’t.

    Clinton inherited an economy that was well on the way to recovery when he took office, but tried to make out like he had untied the Gordian Knot. The problems that caused the latest recession were the makings of a lot of bad decisions by lawmakers from both parties, but Obamaites want the world to believe that it’s all Bush’s fault, so when the economy recovers, as the economy always does, he can take all the credit.

    Because things haven’t gone as well as Obama and the Dems promised when they passed the Stimulus plan almost two years ago, plus the way they rammed HC through, they lost the last election – BADLY.

    In all likelihood, in the next 18 months the economy will get better, and to the degree that it does, it will help (8.5% unemployment) Obama, regardless of what he does or doesn’t do the “fix it.”

    His numbers have bumped up recently because 1.) the campaign against him and the Dems ended in Nov after they lost; 2.) he looked more bipartisan in closing out a few deals at the end of the Lame Duck session, 3.) his response to the shooting in Tucson was viewed favorably because it was non-partisan.

    All of that will soon be forgotten and he and the Republicans will be judged on how things work out on 1.) the Economy, 2.) Deficit Reduction, 3.) the next battle over ObamaCare, 4.) a whole bunch of things (foreign & domestic) that haven’t happened yet and none of us can predict.

    So, I still wouldn’t bet against an Obama victory in 2012, but he will have to chart a course much closer to the center than he did in 2009 & 2010 if he wants to hold onto the WH. And if he gets re-elected by a smaller margin, he will still likely face a Republican Senate (the numbers facing the Dems are daunting) and House (albeit one with a smaller Rep majority).

    In other words, don’t get too excited by the President’s latest poll numbers.

  37. Ted Doty says:

    Really Pbrain? Clinton inherited an economy that was well o its way to recovery? Were there any indicators that support your wild claim?

    Really Pbrain? The latest recession was caused by lawmakers…from both sides. LOL. In the first sentence of the post above you stated politicians don’t make or break the economy…which is it Pbrain?

  38. P says:

    Once again, my days of providing remedial help to the Economic & Politically challenged are over. Ditto for people who can’t remember History, Civics or School Board Membership. i.e., YOU

    As an alternative, why not offer us your “fabulous” insights and I’ll ask you dumb questions. 😉

  39. Ted Doty says:

    I haven’t asked for help, I’m asking you to support your wild claims. Your previous quip lets us allow know that you you have nothing.

    Also, you’l have to explain the school board comment.

  40. P says:

    Ted – Talk to the Hand.

  41. Ted Doty says:

    I ask you to to support your wild claims and you give us Jerry Springer. LOL

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